Five thousand demonstrated in Malmö
What I found fascinating about the link is that it is a very short article and yet a lot of people have responded to it [at least as of now) 52 comments have been posted.
National News | 2009-03-07 | 52 comments
Around five thousand people demonstrated against the tennis game between Sweden and Israel today. A couple of hundred of them tried to attack the police outside the Baltic Hall and force the police´s barrages.
According to SvD some of the militant demonstrators tried to climb up on police vehicles and trash the blue lights. Some of them also climbed up in lamp posts to remove the bulbs. The organizers of the demonstration urged repeatedly the violent groups and individuals to leave the area.
Some individuals, masked and dressed in black, also shot fire works and threw paint. DN writes that a couple of masked demonstrators even attacked one of the peaceful anti-Israel demonstrators because he called those who threw stones at the police for “idiots”.
Before the possession marched towards the Baltic Hall there were speeches by the chairman of the Left party Lars Ohly and one of the founders of the Green party, Per Gahrton.
It is now calm outside the Baltic Arena.
Tommie Ullman
tommie.ullman@stockholmnews.com
Readers' comments
2009-03-08 23:10 Muezzin wrote:
Eli & Amir: You are both living on stolen land & homes. You have terrorised a civilian and unarmed population. You are Europeans and will eventually have to move back. I suggest you do it sooner than later, at least this way you will be able to pack your bags. You are on the wrong side of history. The day of European colonialism is over. It doesn´t matter if your G-d, a psycho who ordered you to smash the heads of infants and a realestate agent on the side, promised you this land.
2009-03-08 22:59 Muezzin wrote:
Why is it that all chat boards are instantaneously taken over by Israeli hasbara and their cousins from India. All these European jews think they have a right to be in palestine. Well you don´t have any such right. If you hadn´t manipulated America into supporting your illegal colonisation of Palestine under the stupid excuse that G-d gave you this land all would be quiet in this world. What do you think is going to happen to you when this support stops.
2009-03-08 21:59 Berndt, Stockholm wrote:
Following Wiesenthal’s historical reminders and despite the political protests, there is a historical justice in Israel advanced to the Davis Cup quarterfinals after rallying to beat seven-time champion Sweden 3-2 Sunday. Malmö officials said they “couldn´t” guarantee security at the venue. Malmö in fact was shamefully caving in to threats of violence from leftists and Muslims.
2009-03-08 18:23 Kent wrote:
What an exiting game. Come an, Vinci. Break the serve now in the third set.
2009-03-08 18:11 INDIAN wrote:
these muslim extremist some times use children and women as their shields (hide behind women and children)and show other muslims and media their dead bodies. there are instances that these islamic extremists killed some women and children and show them to international media to gather sympathy from many naive people. these things happened in kashmir in india since many year. they know how add fuel to fire.
2009-03-08 18:02 INDIAN wrote:
all muslims are not terrorits but 99 percent terrorits in various countries are muslims perticularly in INDIA.every one should think about this.
2009-03-08 17:59 indian non muslim wrote:
from india in the future you will see the news that millions of muslims were killed or millions of non muslims were killed by muslims. THAT IS THE NON SENSE CREATED BY MUSLIMS with their religion and in india 99 percent people dont know israel and palestine conflict at all. there is always a big fights between muslims and non muslims in many countries based on religion since centuries. BASICALLY THERE IS PROBLEM IN ISLAMIC RELIGION. i hope people can learn this fact in the future
2009-03-08 16:06 Nimi, Tel Aviv wrote:
Anton, Apparently fanaticism is contagious. Hollow slogans such as ´genocide´ and ´war crimes´ are cheap propaganda usually used by extremists to raise the mob, without dealing with the harsh meanings of the words. Neither in Gaza nor In Lebanon were there any war crimes, but fierce fighting targeting ONLY terrorists, terrorists who are the only ones who spare no effort in targeting innocent Israeli civilians. You got your moral equation mixed mister.
2009-03-08 14:47 Wiesenthal wrote:
A long-suppressed felling of anti-Semitism among the mainstream so-called “liberals" population has now become legitimate again under the coating of anti-Israeli criticism. Sweden will not be able to successfully cope with the challenges posed by an ever increasing Muslim population until it will come to terms with its dark past at WW2. Lars Ohly will not be able to spare Sweden from Islamic terror.
2009-03-08 13:52 Eli from Jerusalem wrote:
Anton, please do take offense to the following remark. you are an ignorant and mis-informed fool. sorry. but that´s ok. you too will experience terror in your backyard at some point and all you will have available for you as you rummage through the damage is to blame it on the Jews/Israelis/Zionists... may you be comforted by this always.
2009-03-08 10:41 Anton 2 wrote:
The issue of the day is not about a few youth throwing fireworks and paint (hey, not shoes!) on Swedish police vehicles. After all the half a million strong hard working Muslim community in Sweden, just like the 55 million strong Muslim community in Europe (with 20 million in EU alone) have not commited mass Murder!!
2009-03-08 10:41 Anton 1 wrote:
The matter of the day is for Israel to stop settlement building, accept two-state solution, to accept verification of its Nuclear activities (and arsenal!), to accept the probe of its War crimes in Gaza & Lebanon & also to accept the Genocide commited in both Gaza & Lebanon. And also the way forward for Israel to be admitted back into the civilised world is to participate & accept the forum of Durban II conference.
2009-03-08 10:14 Nimi, Tel Aviv wrote:
People around the world must understand. True – a picture of a child´s corpse is an horrific site. Who is the blame though, is not to be judged by first intuition. A mother sending her 6 year old to a rocket launching site ON PURPOSE to hopefully become a Shahid is unbelievable to western eyes but a natural behavior to religious fanatics. The child´s picture after is a very strong weapon for them, that obviously works. You would expect intelligent westerns people to know and react better.
2009-03-08 09:58 Nimi, Tel Aviv wrote:
Thanks for your honesty. It started like this: It is sad to see Swedish people take side in a conflict they so much do not understand and cannot understand. I don´t know where all you people are writing from, but I do know for sure you are not expecting a rocket to fall in your living room or in your children´s bedroom any moment. You don´t know how it feels to live with a rock of constant worry in your stomach, for years and years, knowing your leaders aren´t able to help you and finish it.
2009-03-08 09:35 Stockholm News wrote:
Nimi, Tel aviv, we accidentelly delated the first of your comments. We are sorry about that but there is unfortunatelly no way for us to restore a delated comment.
2009-03-08 06:04 John wrote:
Israel is a racist state. The Zionists, Israelis, and those who support Israel no matter what are quick to dismiss any arguments made against Israeli domestic and foreign policy. They don´t even allow a healthy neutral space wherein people may discuss what Israel is doing to its own Arab citizens and the Palestinians. I was in Israel in June 07. I felt never so humiliated as when entering and exiting Israel. Racial profiling and double standard are everyday norms for those who "look" Arab.
2009-03-08 01:27 Jeff, Boston wrote:
Silvester, If Israel want to push the Palestnians out of their homes it can be done in less then a day. When you equate Liberman´s paln to ask all Isralis to sware alligance to the country before they get a government job to the holocaust is even more childish then claiming Israel want to nuke people living 500 meters from them.
2009-03-08 01:21 Thomas wrote:
When will the civilised world realize, that the islamic movement(Hamas, Hisbollah) is the problem. We as non-muslims(Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Atheists, Zoroastrians, Bahais etc.) should open the eyes, what is going on around Israel. Everybody should read the islamist charta of the Hamas. According to Hamas-propaganda their goal is to rule the world, to create a caliphate around the world. Me as a German Christian, i am standing with Israel and their citizen.
2009-03-08 01:15 Al, Toronto wrote:
Hi Alexander You call Israel a racist state. Why? Is it because Arabs can vote there unlike in Syria or serve in the Israeli government, which Palestinians are not allowed to in Lebanon. Is Did the bombing in Madrid, London and the attempt in Germany, France and destruction of Swedish police property, stems from the racist acts of these countries? Further, with hundreds of thousands of murdered Africans in darfur, how come non of these "anti racist" demonstartors speaks out against it.
2009-03-08 00:41 Wiesenthal wrote:
To Robert, I do not touch your freedom, but probably a soft nerve. It is time to bravely face the past. All what was listed below were facts. In addition, to prevent Jews from fleeing Germany to Sweden, the Swedes asked the Germans to mark the passports of Jews with the letter "J." The "Snow White and The Madness of Truth" in 2004 was not an artwork or freedom. This was an encouragement for further killing by terrorists and their collaborators. History will judge Sweden differently than Robert.
2009-03-07 23:51 muslim wrote:
in the world where ever there are muslims there is a problem. if there is no problem they create problem in some way. israel ocupation is bad. but what is the point in attacking police and destroying police vehicles. in danish cartoons controversy they have done the same thing in many countries they attacked embassies.if islamic culture is better than swedish culture how come 90 percent of refugees in sweden are muslims. sweden has done a big mistake to allow this people to live in sweden
2009-03-07 23:00 james wrote:
Hamas is supporting the killings in darfur. Hamas, Iran, Syria all sent down delegations to darfur to support bashir. They are also close with mugabe.
2009-03-07 21:59 Paolo wrote:
When the Swedish leftist will start to criticize about 10 years old girls given against their will as wives to 60 years old men in Islamic countries? Likely never! Are they afraid to have their throats cut by the friends whose votes they want to capture? Justice principles seem to have abandoned Sweden.
2009-03-07 21:58 Nimi, Tel Aviv wrote:
..If you would understand what Israel is dealing with, really understand, not judge from what you see on your TV as if it was reported by god himself, then for sure many of you "left wingers" would not mix weak and strong with good and evil. A rocket through your window might help you understand too…
2009-03-07 21:57 Nimi, Tel Aviv wrote:
How it is to live with a double standard global population, manipulated by Arab dominating media, who accepts your misery as a natural way life. But then you remember to open your mouth and protest, because someone in that racist Zionist regime decided enough is enough, and someone on the other side decided it´s a good opportunity to sacrifice a son or two for a good picture and some Iranian cash. ...
2009-03-07 21:44 Stockholm News wrote:
Hi everyone. Thanks for all the posts. It has turned into an interesting discussion. The moderator is leaving for the night now and since no posts can be published without having been read it has to wait until tomorrow. Of course you can always write comments but they will be published tomorrow. thanks and have a good night all of you.
2009-03-07 21:38 Silvester wrote:
@ Amir. Quite right, hombre, although it may sound a bit harsh the way you put it. I´d say "demographic weapon" instead. That´s the most powerful of all, y compris those 200+ nukes Israel surreptitiously detains. Folks like Avigdor Lieberman, an outright fascist, think their atomic bombs would be driving the proliferant Palestinians out in the sea one day. Childish naïveté.
2009-03-07 21:34 Amir, Tel Aviv Settlement wrote:
OK, Israel is racist. We concured the "territories" in 1967, so arab are angry, right? Wrong! 1. Why jews been murdered in riots at 1921 in Jaffa and other places? 2. Why 70 jews been slaughtered in Hevron in 1929? 3. Why was the "PLO-Palestinian Liberation Organization" was established in 1964? What "Palestine" it intended to liberate? 4. Can one of you mention a single time that the name "Jerusalem" apears in the Kuran? How many time will you see that name in the Bible? "Palywood"
2009-03-07 21:22 Amir, Tel Aviv Settlement wrote:
Azmi Bishara, once member of Israeli Kneset, one of the worst and bitter enemies of the state of Israel, escaped Israel after spying for the Hizballah. You cannot blame him as a Zionist, he? Look what he says about "palestinian nation", it a hoax made by the europeans at the end of the 19th century: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3n5-yG-6dU
2009-03-07 21:15 Ehmud wrote:
So, racism is only a problem if it´s directed against Jews, it seems. The powerful lobbyists and governments of the world can try to hide the sun with a finger, but that will not mean it is not there behind, shining on all their crimes and misdemeanors equally as it does on those of other nations.
2009-03-07 21:13 Amir Tel Aviv Settlement wrote:
Sweden, have fun. the Islamic Tsunami will not bypass you. We, Israelies, see the islamic tsunami day by day, we know that muslims see all jews as "settlers" no matter where they live, Hevron or Tel-Aviv. Don´t worry, we´ll fight, but you take care, YOU WILL BE the next "Settlers" in your own land in couple of years to come. Muslim Tzunami will make sure that each and every one of you swedish guys, will marked as a "settler" in his own property. Again, have fun :-)
2009-03-07 21:10 Eli from Jerusalem wrote:
Hi Erikson, do you value Israeli/Jewish life as well? Do we make your cut? Don´t bother answering... I think it´s pretty obvious
2009-03-07 21:08 Serghei wrote:
@ Eli. I guess I would like to see both sides acknowledge the darker parts of their collective psyche and to do something positive to bring about an equitable, negotiated peace for future generations. No one is inherently in the right because they are Jewish or Arab.
2009-03-07 21:06 Eli from Jerusalem wrote:
Dear Viviene, Eli here again. what ethnic cleansing are you refering to? How many Arabs were living in Palestine in 1948 and how many are living in Israel and the West Bank today? How can a the Israeli Parliament(the Knesset) have Arab members if they are being cleansed?! Did you know a Jew (Chosen or not) is not allowed to visit Saudi Arabia? And why do you think we think we´re better than anyone? we are less than 12 million people - a fraction of the world´s population. Noisy, yes - better- no
2009-03-07 21:01 Erikson wrote:
@ doni. To cut a long story short, just be informed that Zionism will always be considered racism by those of us who value ALL human life.
2009-03-07 20:58 Eli from Jerusalem wrote:
Hi Seghei, nice to meet you too. Just a quick quesiton before I am accused of dominating this Chat Board. Have you ever had a look at a Bible? you might notice the mention of Israel and the Jewish people having a presence there until we were exiled. Maybe we are the "indigenous population" you are referring to? And where was the Palestinan State in the West Bank and Gaza between 1948 and 1967. Would you like a brief history lesson?
2009-03-07 20:57 doni .a. Israel wrote:
countinue... platform of Hamas regime in Gaza. As cristians you too should worry: [The goal is] War to the bitter end to achieve victory and destruction on other religions until the truth [Islam]will overcome. The war will be until the countries [Europe,America and asia...] return to the Islam and the voice of muezzin will be heard on the roof of the mosque declaring the establishment of Islam domiunation. ------ Open your eyes and see who you support...
2009-03-07 20:55 doni .a. wrote:
countinue... platform of Hamas regime in Gaza. As cristians you too should worry: Christian occupation [Crusader] is sinister entity, is not applied in any way, using all despised means to achieve its Goal…They aim is to destroy values, tattoo alliances, scatter the morality to eliminate Islam. They are those who stand behind the trafficking of drugs and Alcohol to the purpose of helping them take over the world and spread themselves. part 2
2009-03-07 20:53 doni. a. Israel wrote:
Hello sweden, Before writing ignorant statments about Israel, read what is the platform of Hamas regime in Gaza. As crisitians you too should be worried: Allah is the purpose [of movement..the holy war [Jihad] is it´s way and the death for Allah is it´s supreme purpose. *** Doomsday will come when the Muslims will kill the Jews, until the Jewish hide behind trees, and the rocks, trees and stones will say: "Oh Muslim there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him". part 1.
2009-03-07 20:51 Viviane wrote:
@ antiislamic. Again and again we´re informed that an ideology based around the right to systematically ethnicly cleanse of one group in favour of another group which hold themselves to be superior is not racist, and surely appear to be zealot of it. Really? Killing one people because another people are ´better´ or ´chosen´ is acceptable?
2009-03-07 20:49 Eli from Jerusalem wrote:
I would like to thank the talkback editors of the Stockhome News site for giving me an opportunity to have a say. We Israelis are having a very hard time getting our message out and I came looking for an English-language Swedish website that would give me an opportunity to tell your country how painful it is that our tennis players cannot play in a normal environment because Hamas chose to fire thousands of rockets at our southern towns the past 4 years after Israel disengaged unilaterally
2009-03-07 20:42 Eli from Jerusalem wrote:
Dear Alexander the Great! you don´t know the first thing about me and I can assume you probably haven´t many Israelis. I am not an Islamaphobe or a racist. I support the two state solution and am a member of the peace camp. I´m not sure you support my right to exist though. I´m surprised you don´t have a problem with the angry mob today in Malmo destroying Swedish property and attacking your Police. I´m not sure what the justification is for that. BTW...what would YOU have done with Gaza?
2009-03-07 20:42 Seghei wrote:
Hi, Alexander. What Israel is doing is very hard to categorise. It has never been done before, not in the entire history of colonialism. I´m not sure that, in a precise sense it is racism: the various groups who practise or formerly practised Judaisms cannot in any sense be said to constitute a race. What we do know is that the community known as Israel has been driving away the indigenous population, persecuting them and discriminating against them.
2009-03-07 20:35 Eli from Jerusalem wrote:
Hi Robert, What Apatheid State are you refering to? When is the last time you visited an Israeli university or hospital to see how many Arabs get the same treatment as do Israeli Jews. As for the Security Barrier, Robert... exactly 7 years ago during the Second Intifada after Palestinians blew up buses, cafes, restaurants and other "targets" killing hundreds inside Israel, we had no choice but to erect a security barrier to keep out would be bombers. They built the "apartheid wall". shame....
2009-03-07 20:33 anti islamic wrote:
these muslims some day m ake this country as afghanistan or pakistan in the pretext of anti israel. police just shoot down these roughs otherwise these can not be controlled and sweden should stop muslim immigration
2009-03-07 20:24 Alexander wrote:
Israel is a racist state, period. The demonstrators in Malmo called to boycott Israel because they do not support a racist state. It´s as simple as that, Eli, so stop spewing your islamophobic rant on this board. Go posting your racial prejudices and Jewish hatred onto far-right forums in your home country.
2009-03-07 20:16 Roby wrote:
To Robert, Freedom of speech Ha Ha. Because of so much freedom, Swede´s Davis team could not play tennis safely. And the police; what the hake the demonstrators have against the police ??
2009-03-07 20:10 Eli from Jerusalem wrote:
Hi Robert, What Apatheid State are you refering to? When is the last time you visited an Israeli university or hospital to see how many Arabs get the same treatment as do Israeli Jews. As for the Security Barrier, Robert... exactly 7 years ago during the Second Intifada after Palestinians blew up buses, cafes, restaurants and other "targets" killing hundreds inside Israel, we had no choice but to erect a security barrier to keep out would be bombers. They built the "apartheid wall". shame....
2009-03-07 19:48 Eli from Jerusalem wrote:
Dear Sweden. Today you got to sample first hand what Israelis have been exposed to for many years- Muslim rage. I know you experienced this with your Danish neighbors 3 years ago and elsewhere in Europe. It is easy for you to sympathize with the Palestinians because of the "Occupation" and other reasons that has clearly put international sympathy in their camp. My question is simple. can you imagine what they would do to us if they could unleash their rage and we didn´t defend ourselves?....
2009-03-07 19:41 Robert wrote:
@ Wiesenthal Funny, you just sound like, and made identical statements as the far-right neo-nazi groups in Sweden sometimes do. Sweden is a wonderful country that respects all cultures and religions where there is no space for extremist opinions like yours, trying to suffocate the freedom of expression here. If you don´t like our freedom in Sweden, move elswhere (Israel?), perhaps you will find the apartheid state more fitting for you. Just don´t try to touch our freedom in Sweden.
2009-03-07 17:33 Lars wrote:
I fully agree with Wiesenthal´s comments.
2009-03-07 16:37 Wiesenthal wrote:
Anti-Semitism among so-called “liberals" is expressed under the coating of anti-Israeli criticism. Sweden was "neutral" while Nazis exterminated Jews. It allowed Germans to pass through en route to Norway. Sweden provided Nazis with minerals & steel. Swedes served in the SS. War criminals from the Baltic (as Oskar Angelus, the interior minister of occupied Estonia´s puppet regime) found refuge in its territory. None was arrested. The energies demonstrated in Malmö come to protect guilt feelings.